"orion" is a group of software crackers. <-<-- Legume is right. That space doesn't show the user's name. It shows the artist or publisher of the item to be downloaded. Yep but some folks have a surprise that is not coming from CL but pissed of merchants. <-<-- If that surprise is a virus or tojan, you are breaking the law, and are much more likely to be hunted down than the warez folks. Viri cause more hard-money damages than warez and the computer you infect may belong to someone who is on your side and is trying to track down warez proliferators. Phoenix