Glad you enjoyed your visit Shonner.. but I have to say that had you visited when I first started using Poser I think you would have had a much different experience.. Stepping up on the soap box... ( don't groan, you didn't HAVE to open the door ;-) I was lucky, Bill Munns and Elusion both found and critiqued my work early on, and I learned a lot from them ..I still learn a lot from them , and have a long way to go ..BUT the critiques they gave, while pointing out weaknesses were also filled with encouragement, and never disdainful .. I agree that artists can grow by hearing both the good and the bad about ones work.. however I also have to say that I think a person can be set back and more or less frozen from receiving a critique that makes the artist feel that it comes not from a genuine whish to help but more from a whish to undermine. You sound like you have some background in art ..it would be wonderful to share that , but if you share it in a way that is hurtful to the recipient then it is a waste of your time and a potential set back to the person receiving it .. Sorry Shonner .. I know it was a bit underhanded to start yapping at ya when all you did was enjoy a visit to my gallery .. It is just that while I have never gotten to know Turtle personally I have watched as she struggle with Poser in the beginning .. and then watched as she began to really get a grip on the program, I hate to see someone who worked that hard get hurt.