I have sat back and watched all the reactions to P5, and am very glad that I did not order it... with the THOUSANDS of dollars and time I have spent building up my P4 library of wonderful clothing, animals, props, etc.. and the fact that P4 renders fine, that it's figures go easily into other programs, especially Vue 4, why would I want to upgrade to a product that is buggy and may never perform right, that has no export of the figures into Vue till (if and when) a patch is put out by CL or e-on???? Why on earth was P5 put out with it's figures locked inside it?? Plus the figures do NOT look any better.. they look odd..no eyelashes and that elbow thing I have seen here and who knows what else... ugh! I really appreciate this forum of honest people who are giving the reports needed for my final decision to stick to my trusty P4! Sara