Absolutely! I am more than 1/2 glad I can't update to Poser5, it makes my decision to stay away from such corporate rape much easier to handle :). Sadly, its the wave of the future though. Privacy is an idea past it's time. None of these issues can ever protect software, and the programmers know this. It's all about control of the user. Poser users aren't buying Poser 5, regardless of what they might think before they part with a few hundred bucks. They get a VERY limited lease, and worse, it's on CL's good graces from square one. Wait till a new reg costs 20 bucks and lasts 30 days. Bill Gates TOLD the world about this two years ago, and ever since then has continued to push his agenda forward. CL has gladly jumped on board, and why not? It's steady income and doesn't require the company to EVER update or renew. The same POS will be served out forever. The issues are beyond me, though. I can't act alone, except to protect my home system as best I can, and join the growing underground movement of security minded folks. The vast majority don't know or understand what is happening, even though its been fully reported in every venue imaginable. The bottom line is that until a community acts as a group this wave is going to wash everything away. Privacy matters to me, not because I have anything to hide, but because I should have to PROVE that. No XP, no Poser5, no program EVER that spies on me, or isn't completely mine. When I buy somthing it's mine to do with as I please (including reselling, throwing away or burning). Too bad so many ppl are so willing to toss away their privacy and consumer rights just to have the latest version. I still, gladly, haven't figured out how to use the full power of P4, so it will be many years before I can even begin to think of myself as needing more. Hopefully, by then some new program will be available that caters to the growing number of end users who cherish ownership and privacy.