Ugly? Only the artist. My first P5 render merely three hours after I got it installed and worked through the install glitches, was posted here in an earlier thread. Even though I forgot the eyebrows, etc, it was still way beyond what I've done in P4. Folks at work said "hey, your art is improving" and all I could say was "its the program, trust me". You want to press a key on the keyboard and soar with DaVinci (a possible ancestor of mine)?, or open a sound lab and rivel the Cremonese Violin (a confirmed ancestor of mine)?, or click a few buttons and get cudos for a new animation? Or throw in a filter and rival the early turn of the 20th century (1900's) photos of Cremonese (my grandfather)?, well, it won't happen. Put some elbow grease in it!