It's so weird how people have problems with Poser4. Is it so weird? You were a moderator here Scott, surely you didn't keep your eyes closed all the time? There are hundreds of perfectly valid threads where Poser has eaten something, lost something, locked up or trashed something. There are several forums, with over 100,000 users, if anything is wierd it's that you've NEVER had a problem. No matter what I do. I can't get it to crash or corrupt any files. And I've really tried. I'm usually very very very careful about calling people a liar. But I'm doing it now. Because it's either that or you are calling every person who has had a valid and recognised problem with Poser 4 a liar. The bugs in Poser 4 are known to Curious Labs, they are also well documented in several industry magazines and a couple websites. I believe there is even a thread on this forum from Curious Labs addressing this and explaining why they haven't fixed them. So, you're unique Scott, that must feel good. :) As to what software I'm going to buy. You'll find out eventually. This thread belongs to Curious Labs and their explanation of process to repair their software. I refuse to help you derail it by discussing competitive software.