Procedural textures are usually the best way to go for terrain. Make sure you get the free shaders at www.digitalcarversguild.com, the elevation and slope shaders are very useful for terrain. Also, get my free shader package at www.losthorizonsoftware.com, the free Noise shader is great for landscapes (Eric's pack has a noise shader also, but I prefer mine as it has many more options) The picture above was made using them. The blades of grass in the picture were created by placing several finite planes and using the spike deformer. On a side note, the clouds were created using the 4D volumetric clouds that come with my commercial package, the Carrara Power Pack. Hope this helps. Brian P. Retford Carrara Extensions www.losthorizonsoftware.com