This comment is not about your render Sharen -it's very nice and you always do exceptional work. But,I still feel the hair I have seen so far in Poser 5 renders to me is straw like and stiff looking. As if a ton of hair spray was been added. Perhaps its in the refection values (raytrace or mat prams)- the examples I have seen to date are plastic and just plain to shiney...or perhaps Judy just needs a good conditioner.