"Firefly offers nothing to us Cinema and lightwave users."

Actually Wolf, I somewhat disagree with you on that one. Sometimes I just do animations for fun and amusement. It's alot more convenient to do those in Poser than going through the process of setting everything up for Lightwave. Adapting all the textures etc. can be a real pain and consume lots of time.

For my serious work, however, Lightwave can't be beat.

I've seen stuff that I thought was good come out of Firefly. I've also done stuff in Lightwave where the default set up obviously wasn't adequate (frankly, lighting in Lightwave still kicks my butt). Since I don't know the skill level of most of the users who I've seen posting pictures so far, it's really hard to evaluate. Would they really have gotten better results in Lightwave or Cinema?

I've seen enough to know that good renders can be done. I'm keeping my eyes out for images from people who've established that they know what they're doing - both PC users, and eventually Mac users. The dust will settle soon and we'll be able to make more informed evaluations.

I'm glad I'm not on the bleeding edge but I can not conclusively "write off" P5 yet. I can wait awhile. I've got a Poser/Lightwave project in works that will still take me a few months to finish and I won't switch anything till it's done - even if I absolutely confirm that P5 for the Mac was completely, totally, 100% excellent and bug-free.

BTW, Wolf, how's your movie coming? Are you still looking at a Christmas Release?

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