Mac, I've gotta disagree with you there. If Curious Labs decided to disregard all of the innovations created by this community that have kept Poser 4 a viable and interesting application for years, that's a bug. It's a bug in Curious Labs, maybe, and not the program, but it's a bug. The stupidest thing CL did with this release (other than the registration, depending on your point of view) was to give no built-in support for the creation of MAT files, mention them in the manual while claiming they are a third party innovation and not supported by CL, but still distribute some of them with the product. We won't support it, but we'll distribute it? They understand what we do with the pogram. They undersand our workflow issues. And they ignore it. It's a lack of respect if nothing else that these decidedly useful innovations that kept Poser alive were ignored. Phoenix