I didn't say, and hope I didn't sound like I meant, that Anthony's not a good writer. :) Am I better? Maybe, maybe not. His work of fiction is being published and mine are not, which might be a clue. ;) Deadlines, lack of really detailed info to start out with, and deadlines I think kept us from getting a manual that I would consider really good rather than an adequate "getting started" book. I don't criticize his skill, but would like more detail. I am tripping all over myself to say this because I sincerely do not want to offend Anthony. I wish I could start cranking out those tutorials on the materials, but I'm only beginning to get familiar with it and many things are named differently or render differently that what I'm used to. Also I'm a crappy artist and not the most ceative user of any art tool. But after I reinstall P5 (plagued wih crashes in the simplest scenes, so maybe it's my fault) I will try a few basic tutorials. I hope it's clear I'm not trying to belittle Anthony's work. I'm offering what I hope is constructive criticism, rather than just saying the manual is great or the manual is shit. I'm a better editor than I am either a writer or artist. Phoenix (realizing it's often better to say nothing, but lacking the ability)