Questor, And I am not picking on you, either. ;-) I hope you do not take it that way. What I do find interesting, though, is that with CL and e-on (I had forgotten them, but I have much the same regard for them as I do CL.) are unique in one very big way, at least in my book, in that THEY come to US. In other words, they come HERE (and PoserPros and a few other places), in an arena(s) they do not control to face us on equal terms. Perhaps I place too much value on something others apparently regard as meaningless. It would not be the first time... and I am sure will not be the last. ;-) Take care and be well. casamerica