LOL Thanks for the support. I know I can't please anyone, though I still keep trying. My only point is that I've seen a lot of emotion and energy spent recently that I think could have been avoided by research and asking questions. If you have a problem, then there are two explanations: 1) You don't know what you're doing. In this case, RTFM! 2) You DO know and whatever it is isn't working as advertised. This is a bug and if we at Curious labs know about it, chances are we'll try and fix it. Am I saying Poser 5, the manual, or Curious Labs are perfect? Not at all. We're all just doing the best we can. :-) Anthony