Spit is correct, Harvey. You mention having an open mind, yet everything you say is based from one point of view: Poser's. What about people who build worlds in other programs and just use Poser for the characters? Will they be able to build their worlds inside Poser? I doubt I can do in Poser what I can do in Vue. Even if I bought all the scenery props out there, Poser still wouldn't hold a candle to Vue's quality when it comes to creating nature scenes.