...They're all being hit hard by the reaction... ...tell em they shouldn't be hit hard... Being "hit hard" is a good thing, isn't it? It shows that in an adversarial situation both sides care strongly about your product. If this wasn't so the rest would be pointless. It is when nobody gives a damn that you might as well give up. There a few things in Poser 5 that I hate. But it appears to have its valuable points also. It's not all one-sided. - Jack