What I ment was 4 to 5 thousand hairs total. and have a top section of pretty thick hairs also using a textured scullcap will help hide thin spots. and make sure you dont pull those top hairs too tight. I am also working on an idea for a modification of the scullcap. I'll post it in free stuff if it works. It'll be my first freestuff contribution here:) the hair does slow things down immensely not much you can do about that. I have a much slower processer then you at the momenta(TB 800) though my 2.53gh is on it's way:) but I presently have 768 mb of ram and I've put 10.000 hairs on one figure but I could barely turn her and the render time is a lot slower.