I agree completely, melanie. But the reaction from some of these people when you mention it....sheese, it's like you insulted their mother or something. And jcleaver: If CL added a "Landscape Room" they may be in violation of someone else's EULA ;) Also, Vue 4 has always been able to import Poser 4 files. The new agreement you heard about is for Poser 5. Although, AFAIK, it's still a rumor.