Cage. I'm making him with Raydream5. Terry. It's taking a very long time because I'm using a modeling method that makes small file sizes and still retains a fair amount of detail. I'm shooting for a final mesh file smaller than 3meg. It will be hard to use the ones I've already made in Poser. They are modeled in a way that poser doesn't like. The meshes are stacked on top of each other. Not one single mesh. I've got other projects I haven't finished either. I have a JarJar binks that's been in limbo for a while now too. I start these things but I just can't buckle down and finish them. ScottA