Mac, Don't know what you mean. Transmaps are still just as useful as they were before. You can make a filmy looking material without them, but if you want lace, you'll still need them. For hair, I think you're right that a combo of the old hair and the new will probably give the best final results. haven't tried anything like it yet, though, because my machine hates the dynamic hair. The good news about transmaps... you'll now be able to copy the transmap into the specularity value slot or the reflection value slot so that transmapped items can now have shininess of reflections without "ghosting" the invisible parts. And probably half a million things I haven't thought of yet. :) So you'll still need them, but they will be a lot more flexible. Phoenix