I wonder if CL has thought about packaging a limited form of Poser5 with just heads and the hair room and marketing this to hairstylists to try dry runs on hairstyle ideas? That could be a small but lucrative market! You heard it here first! Copyright 2002! I expect a percentage for the idea!!!!! ....or free upgrades for the rest of my life.....or maybe a new computer so I can run P5 finally....or maybe a pony...... Scarab