You said, "Dr Geep don't be offended but you're wrong about the box, it's not the bottom of the box that's 72' above the floor, I have a feeling it's the centre or the origin of the box that's at 72', this is MVVHO ;)" Then why is the parameter = 0.0000 when the (bottom of the ) box is on the GROUND, if the bottom of the box is not the reference point? Try it, you'll like it. ;=] Pssssst, I'm not offended. It takes alot more than that to offend me. ;=]

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cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019