soulhuntre, ...Actually my comment referred directly to the points raised in the "petition" itself. YOU were not accused. Fine. As your posting segregated various individuals' comments and your accusation was confined to the area of my words it was easy to arrive at my interpretation. As others may easily arrive there also I could not let it pass. Perhaps you could take greater care with your juxtapositions. ...Well, to be technically correct the protection is intended to increase sales. In the pursuit of even greater technicality that would be a "proximate" effect of an immediate cause rather than a "direct" effect. You may as well say that copy protection's purpose is to let Kupa buy a new car or increase corporate equity or put more money in the government's coffers via increased sales taxes or... All true to a degree. But this chain of reasoning is without limit and therefore pointless. I prefer the direct approach. I also tire of pointless weasel words so will say no more on this subject. ...But yes, ON THE WHOLE it is supposed to reduce piracy...a nd it loosk liek it is. Considering that Poser 5 has only been available for a few days I applaud your courage in leaping to such a conclusion. I'd like to believe this was true. But whenever I try I remember that my parents lied to me about Santa Claus and the dentist promised I wouldn't feel a thing. - Jack