I totally agree with Sacred Rose'e comment on this. It would be very unconstructive and unwelcoming if everytime someone asks a question about how to do something in Vue, he would be branded as a warez user. Many people (myself included) has quite a hard time learning operations from the manual. As you all probably know, we all use different ways to understand something. There are four types of learning: reflective observation, abstract thinking, active experimenting and koncrete experimenting. I belong to the last two. I studied the manual for about half an hour when I got Vue 3.1, even less with Vue 4. And the reason I sometime ask stupid questions is because I want to hear the explanations from different people with different approaches to the answere. And you all know how vague this 339 pages long user guide is. But if you all are worried that there are Vue warez users here, ask all members to supply a mug shot of them holding the box, manual and disks in their hands =) ...problem solved!