Would you like me to post a TrueSpace crash, How about lets see Max, Lightwave or Maya? I can do it even with the patches. Or would you prefer Windows or AOL? Ron Ron, no that would be a total waste of time, and prove that you have an incredibly unstable and poorly maintained system. I run Win2K PRO on all machines, they run 24/7/365, and I have never had a BSOD, the system has never gone down, and programs RARELY crash. Most have NEVER crashed. I'm a power-user, and all my rigs are over-taxed with both hardware and software. WIN2K is simply an amazing OS, and properly-coded software behaves without fault. -Tim