Legume: I have to agree with you there ... not installing it, IS kind of silly. It doesn't crash your system or anything. (Well, unless you're fool enough to still be running a non-NT based kernal OS, that is.) Try it out, maybe you'll be lucky. Even if you aren't, and are "half-lucky" (like me), there are still some fun and POWERFUL things to try out. Since the FACE-ROOM behaves REALTIVELY well for me, I have all but mastered it. It certainly has its fair share of problems, and unexplainable programming decisions, but it is a useful and powerful tool nonetheless. Could it better? HECK YEA! Do I enjoy it? Most of the time. Materials are blast too. There is a lot to do and learn ... it's just a shame the shoddy interface, bugs, and lacking modern-day features get in the way. -Tim