Pariah... Here's a little real world advice for ya to help you decide. P5 is absolutely a lot more fun than P4! The hair,materials,face room,and rendering engine make it a really nice upgrade from P4. You'll love the stuff you can do with them. Now here's the real world problem you'll need to deal with: P5 needs a MONSTEROUS machine to run as fast as P4 currently does. The new stuff they added will piss you off if you try to use it on a low end machine. That's not Poser's fault. It needs what it needs. And you should be aware of it up front before you get let down from having to wait for things to happen. I currently use a 1Ghz. PIII with 128 meg ram and it takes a lot of patience to deal with the slowness. But it's still fun. I would recommend at least a 2Ghz processor and 256meg of ram as the bare minimun for P5 if you want it to respond like P4 does on slower machines. P5 is really great. But it's also a bit frustrating because a lot of us don't have enough Ummph to make it fly like it should. In two years 2ghz. machines will be the cheap low end system and Poser5 will come alive down the road as the world upgrades their machines to take advantage of the cool stuff they put in it. If you can get your hands on a decent computer system. I think you will really like it. ScottA