From what steve cooper Steve cooper Stated many of the CL Emplyees worked for months with no pay to get poser 5 shipped Does that mean that they reached a point of permanently losing vital staff or start delivering paychecks with all that Quick Cash from the preorders and just toss out an incomplete release and let the bodies hit the floor??. If thats true its really a shame because they could have delayed Poser5 and Milked **poserpro 4** for more development capital. perhaps they should have Fixed the MAX plugin that only worked for about %40 of MAX users to sell more copies of poserpro4 perhaps they could have fixed the MACintosh Lightwave plugin which seemed to only work for 2 of my "12 animators" ( Saxon & Bobasaur) to sell more copies of poserpror4. perhaps they should have engaged in a more aggressive marketing of the cinema4DXl plugin that works Flawlessly for all 3 of us Cinema guys who know of its existance. :-) As someone who spends alot of time in High-end CG forums outside of rosity i believe a tremendous opportuniy was MISSED with these hosting plugins. ive seen the frustration of MAX LW and C4DXL users who want to do human characters but are stuck with primitave silly cartoonish "rigs " because modeling and building a working CG human on the order of Mike or vicky2 was very labor intensive undertaking in Cinema or lightwave and lets not even talk about clothing/Hair variety. they should have produced a short film on DVD with POSERPRO 4 animations rendered in lightwave MAX and C4DXL and Marketing it heavily in the highend CG community as a viable Character animation Plugin. in my opinion. and now we have a new dodgy version5 with no external plugin support and certainly no real features that would allow any serious Cg animator use it excusively. its time to dust off those old boxes of poserpro4 reapckage poser and the propack as a bundle and drop the price to $200 and get some of that money from those wealthy Lightwave and MAX owners. **-Wolf359 Founding member of the "12 animators"-**
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