I respect a lot of people here and at other places. I love Poser5 best upgrade yet. A EULA that has finally told me what I can do and given me the freedom to. Finally protected us people who pay for it and sticked it to the Warez kiddies who like to complain. Least buggy of my last 5 uprades of other apps. Do you want a list? For those of you who are little mice or, is that rats, following the pied pipers go ahead. Dont buy it or use it. Ron