Was max cracked. 3-D studio max r4, the same as CL which was cracked. An aversion for 3-D studio r3 was also cracked. What I was trying to point out with this statement that max 4, has been cracked and poser 4 has also been cracked. And I have also noticed max 5.0 has also been cracked, by the Chinese. Its just a matter of time until poser 5, will be cracked as well. As far as I know it has not been at this time. Now remember, I purchased all the programs I use. And I did by a copy of poser 5, which I found it is a big mistake. Crash, crash, crash, crash. Technical support what a joke, I received more information from here than from CL, which was very helpful. However I still have crash, crash, crash, crash, crash. And I have just switch from, Pose, to Comtent, lockup, and crash. Basically my computer is a dual Pentium III 1.00 GB, with 3 GB of memory as well and a Elsa GLoria III. You would think with these resources it would be stable. Maybe too much for it. And I do support this petition.