A friend recent bought the Creative Labs Annihilator graphics card that uses the GEForce chipset and has 32 megs of ram. It absolutely blows the doors off the present Voodoo cards. His 3D 1st person shooters now show detail that he never knew existed and it Rocks!! Pretty impressive for 3D applications as well. How the new Voodoo will stack up remains to be seen. Regards, - Art -