Have to say that was a bit of a cheap shot Norbert, if I take your meaning correctly. But hey, people say stuff in these forums that they would refrain from saying in person -just my opinion. As to Shadownet's point, you can certainly argue the effectiveness of any security scheme, all of them being imperfect. Unfortunately, if CL implemented a "more" secure scheme, e.g. a hardware dongle, even more people would be upset. I don't see giving up and having no security as a viable solution however. Poser is in a unique position. I agree that many of the people who download MAX or Maya probably don't use them much and would probably not buy them, so no loss. Poser has a greater practical appeal (yes naked people) and is easy enough to use for the basics. It is also priced reasonably enough that a number of people could afford to buy it. CL has to at least try to protect themselves while not making things too onerous for legitimate customers. Neither they nor we can determine the answer to the essential equation losses prevented vs sales lost. Finding fault with them for trying doesn't make sense to me. I really don't think the relatively minor inconvenience is the problem. Having your drive crash would seem to make that pale in comparison. Some people simply object to the concept that they might have to go through the process. They are willing to be scanned, frisked, questioned and scrutinized at an airport even though we all know that a smart, determined terrorist can get through anyway, but they accept the legitimacy of the process because they value their lives over inconvenience. Each person simply has to determine if they value Poser 5 over the inconvenience.

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