tirjasdyn: i don't understand how can you ignore this many posts reporting bugs and troubles with p5 and it's interface. nobody is questioning what can p5 do, the new features, but it's handling. the interface causes more problems then it solves and there's undersandably a lot frustration involved. even kupa said that thea are some serious bugs in it, and that they are working on patches. considering the fact (also from kupa) that they didn't get payed for some months (and they need money like everyone) it is clear that cl used it's customers for a little financial refreshement and put a product that wasn't ready on the market. even though this causes some grievences in this community given a lot of personal connections between cl and customers, i'd wish that this discussion would be more of a civilized sort. vulgarity doesn't help much.