actually, on a side note: to test the connection and webserver config on my comp, I had someone download corel photo-paint 9 for linux from me...it is a freely available download from corel.. would that be warez? since the app in question is available free of charge. re: personal use license and commercial use license Terragen has this in effect, you can get the app free from thier website, limits on render size for personal use. for commercial use the license must be purchased and it removes the limits on that. this seems to be a good way to go with licening for personal / commercial customers, though to develop an application as well as Vue, poser, maya, max, rhino you can't give the personal license away, that is a big part of the funding for developing. (talking through myhat here since I'm developing a full graphics suite for linux under the gpl license, which means it is completely free, and source code MUST be given with app or else made available for easy download )