Doc, Not sure what led you to this particular number. (Not saying that it isn't swell...) But I think you were dead-on when you suggested CL made a tiny typo in the program. I don't think they meant for Posrland to be a world of giants. Have you informed them of the obviously incorrect scale? They could fix this in a patch and then we could all actually use the numbers built in to Poser, which would be a lot easier. Thanks for doing all these calculations. Phoenix