Um... no offense meant here, Storm, but why would you want to take a mesh that has already been reworked, rework it again to try and create a competitive product against the original owners?? Why not just create one from fresh? If you are going to invest that sort of time into it and intend to sell it, would it not make more sense to completely OWN the mesh yourself? To my knowledge, Jim Burton asked for permission to create Super Model Vicky and got DAZ's blessing in it, regardless, Jim spent allot of time with that mesh and don't qoute me, it's pretty much a new mesh he created. Jim Burton would be better to ask about this. I can see the importance of asking ownership of the meshes so that you know who to seek permission from. But I guess I kinda have trouble understanding why you would want to create an all new mesh character, using someone elses mesh, then turn around and sell it to compete directly with them... again, no offense, but... well, if I was the owner of that mesh, I'd be asking for a serious royality from the sale of that "new" character. Just my 2 pennies, Jack