Actually, wdudre, I think you're a bit off, here. I've been practicing turning everything into cloth objects, and I've found that the tighter the clothing, the easier it is. The collision detection can be set up to handle all sort of different cloth types, once you know how to use it properly. Don't get me wrong, it will still be nice to have conforming clothing. What I intend to do is put the conforming clothing on the figure in the pose I want, export it as an obj, then reimport and clothify. This saves time from calculating the drape from zero pose. Paul