Yes, that's what I meant by "off-hand" ... is that not the same thing? (It's possible, I've been averaging 4 hours of sleep/night and I'm a 9-10 hour person.) But in relative terms, it's probably pretty accurate. If there were only 1000 Poser users, only about 12 of them would be animators. Maybe LESS than 1% ... who knows,all I DO know is, we're overlooked quite often in a lot of areas, and there aren't many of us in comparison to the still-render crowd. -Tim ("The 12 Animators" Founding Member)