If my statement was seen as an attempt to say that CL shouldn't put out P5 for the mac thats not true they should and will. I want the Mac to succeed my statement was that the likelyhood is not as good that they will survive in their present form in the long run. sure they are profitable on paper. if one doesn't include $316 million in long term debt (they did retire 1 million of that debt last year which is I guess a good sign) but these cool new Imacs were not as much of a success as they wished for (doesn't mean I dont want one, they're so cool!) they're sitting on 34 million dollars in inventory almost twice that of last year. not a good sign. but then I could be wrong.