I've been a little dissapointed in the new Poser 5 people, they still don't do large frame body types the way that Micheal and Vicki two can. As for who is more manly, I still think that Micheal has it all over Don. I think that Don is simply Dork Jr. In the conforming clothes category there is still the same problem with things poking through the clothes that shouldn't be. I also thought the collision detection would correct for this, but it doesn't. At least they have a selection of clothes for the children this time, unlike Poser 4 which either offered kids nude or with summery clothing on.