I'd venture to say less than 1% of the users are interested in re-skinning it, or even have the know-how. We just want the interface to work like a normal interface. As I said, I was getting silly. Yeah, I'm disappointed about the mediocre lighting still present, but can I render it in C4DXL or Vue ... sure. Sure, learning how things work is part of it. But the manual (and with all due respect to Anthony ... I think he was under tremendous time pressure) seems to equate to one of these deals: "Widget Temporal Analysis Toggle: Toggles the Widget's Temporal Analysis" Sorry, there's learning ... and then there is needing a supplemental manual. (CL is not the first to do this, but it doesn't make it right or any less frustrating.) Sorry, but the whole "it's not that expensive argument" is deplorable. What's more, there are cheaper programs that incorporate the CORE, BASIC interface features I mentioned above. I've said it before, and I'll say it again ... even the crappy COOL3D has OpenGL hardware support, full mouse support, multiple UNDOs, etc. These are basic items that should not have been overlooked. -Tim