(still more) Since every time this topic comes up, some people are nervous that CL or DAZ could make derivative activities illegal some day: If you don't include any copyrighted information, then you are not in violation of copyright law. There is nothing any vendor can do to stop derivative works that don't include any copyrighted information. (That would be "restraint of trade".) The rest is all details. Conversely, if you are including copyrighted information, then you are probably doing wrong, however inadvertently. The reason: utilities can extract that copyrighted information in a useful form. Tailor vis-a-vis transferring morphs to clothing is a prime example of that. Bottom line: encode your file(s) versus the original(s) using some utility. Then the original vendor has no legal basis for complaint. -- "Toolmaker" Steve S.