I am not sure what everyone else expects, I have not really gotten into animation in the past but with Poser 5 I am really learning a lot more about everything related to animating materials, hair cloth and even walk or movements. But I am finding the program to encourage me to learn more by using the new features. I am not sure about the walk designer, I tend to think that this is something that is more of a convenience than critical. I thought that the best way to animate characters was frame by frame...?...my biggest problems so far have been operator related. I am really happy with the stuff they did put in, the multi level file access; the hair and shaders...maybe it is because I am not looking for a lightwave type program or a 3dmax, I have enough trouble learning truespace!!!... I really enjoy Poser 5, after a realtively short learning period the program is a lot of fun. Maybe what some really are looking for is to graduate to a high end modeling program with a lot more "plug ins" to buy...and a lot more power....and a much higher price.... looking back from Poser 2, 3 4 and now 5, wow 5 has more features.