Entropic: Not to beat it into the ground, but I'd just like to say, I don't think it is just a FEW people. I dind't even think I was one of them until I started really trying to use the software beyond the FACE ROOM.

Also, Steve has admitted it shipped with significant bugs because "they needed to be paid." I appreciate his honesty, and like him personally, but that is a little more than disturbing.

As I said, I've bitched and moaned on the UNDO and some other pet-peeves from the start. But when I saw the WD issue was still there, along with all the others, well that convinced me they had certainly not rewritten Poser from the ground up.

-Tim

PS> Hell, I loved the Pro-Pack add-on, and thought it was a good value. I never said an unkind word about it, or P4 for that matter (other than to ask why something didn't work, or how to fix it). This release simply does not measure up to what was promised, let alone what was expected.