Paul: I never thought you were defending CL or any of the other things you mentioned. I simply feel ... well "hoodwinked" would be apt I suppose. It's very frustrating when you like a program like Poser as much as I do, only to have a long anticipated release correct none of the basic things you were expecting it to correct. I apologize if it seems childish, and I fully admit it is clear, unadulterated venting, ranting, and bitching. It stems from the realization that I did not receive what was promised. Sure the new features are great, some might even say revolutionary in such an affordable package. But I'd much rather have it do the things it should have been doing a long time ago that relate to CORE FUNCTIONALITY. That's all. _Tim