Much better approach, Tim. Now that I can hear what you're saying without anger, I can certainly understand you better. The core functionality of Poser is a tough beast to consider though. What I said about the lights I meant. Sure, they're limited. People want limited in this case, because dealing with a twenty-three hour render due to overlapping volumetrics would be hell for most Poser users. But let's talk about the walk designer. I've never used it. Most people don't. It really does suck that the people who rely on that portion of the program seem to have been overlooked. But now lets consider what our options are. We can ask Steve Cooper and Curious Labs to prioritize upgrading the walk designer for a future patch. We can put out calls for Python Scripters to look into smoothing it out. We can experiment between your machine and mine to see if there's a problem somewhere that we might be overlooking. Does any of these solutions sound amenable? Paul