STORM, I apologize if I seemed to be saying that your original question was repeating a "same old question" - I was reacting to the broader issues that some responses raised. Thank you for clarifying the "new situation" in Poser 5 that raises your question. I'm sure that's what everyone wants to know: what are the situations that might get me in trouble, and how do I avoid them :-) -- "Toolmaker" Steve S.