We also serve who merely stand on the sidelines and smirk. ;] shrug Best suggestion I can come up with still for "solving", is for CL to do what they stated they were doing way back and actually redesign Poser 5 into an upgrade, rather than P4 with plugins. Don't see that happening, honestly. Instead, they're putting you in the unenviable position of doing their product support in here and finding workarounds for the glitches. Which - I will NOT take away from you Jeff, doing poser tech and poser user support you do very well in here, and have been doing for multiple versions. You are very fucking good at it. I can wish they'd given you something better to work with. Oh well. Both of us will live.

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