Well like all these posts it is pretty easy to spot the Daz3d and Curious Lab stooges No matter what they say the great unwashed masses out there will not buy it. My tip is by the early next year Curious Labs as we know it will be gone. The French /German owners will then send it to India or Malaysia and by the end of 2003 we will have a new version of Poser that works for around US$ 200.00