Well, I like poser for the the bendable folks (figures) and some of the really great stuff you can get for really nice prices. I prefer rendering in vue (because I like out of doors scenes), but I want a good platform to manuever a figure(s) into an attractive pose that works with the scene I'm generating elsewhere. Although I am far from it, I do intend on working on some animations now that mover 4 has been released, and that certainly applies to poser. I don't have P5, and am not sure when I'll start planning an upgrade. There are some really great things that I have yet to learn about P4, so perhaps I will wait a while before jumping into the fire. Eric