Actually the last 5 or 6 images I have posted are all from P5. Some using the firfly render engine a few with a standard P4 engine. Since there isn't really a good deal of poser5 content available and since there is a ton and a half of poser4 stuff. I suspect it will be a while before what P5 can be will be seen. Some the new features are not as easy to use as ppeople thought they would be. some items not working at all. other needing tweaking before they look the way they did in p4. So I would say that for the most part ppl are still tinkering with what P5 does and how it does it. And since a nude and 25 spotlights will alweays look like a nude and 25 spotlights, the differences will not be very much. I personally try to tell stories and illustrate with poser. and create beliveable characatures of humans and others. still it's a hobby and what I do is largely dismissed as trash since i am not one of the annointed ones that seem to use characters and props like kleenex, one use and you never see those again. I would suspect that untill ppl attempt to do more with characters and or try to create their own instead of buying and using other peoples, folks are not going to feel a connection to thier creations, and treat it all as a instant gradification thing, and never get any more than they get now. IMHO